post Category: Recruiting — Accounting Genius @ 4:25 AM — post Comments (26)

Big 4 offers you neither good money nor a good work-life balance. I have already covered that. However, I still maintain that a job with a Big 4 firm is an ideal start to a corporate career.

The biggest reason you should be considering a career with the Big 4 is the education. The experience you gain with a Big 4 firm is the best functional business education a person can get. Yes, theoretical knowledge has its place, but if you want to really learn about how Fortune 500 companies do business, go audit them. As an auditor, you will have exposure to almost all aspects of your clients business and this is invaluable experience.

For example, as part of your audit of a diesel engines manufacturer, you will probably end up answering some of the following questions: How does this company make the engines? How does it determine what sort of a warranty the engines should carry, and what amount should they accrue for claims? Is the inventory going to become obsolete due to some new legislation? How and when are the sales reps paid? Can the company reasonably expect payment for their products from customers? I think you get the point.

After days of grueling, back-numbing work, when (if) you come out of the audit alive, you will know how a diesel manufacturing company works, and in a larger sense how many mechanical manufacturing companies work. You will have learned about the problems that these companies face and the strategies they employ to overcome such problems. Three months of auditing a company can teach you substantially more about how businesses work than four years at a university. Now imagine the amount of knowledge you will gain auditing several different companies, with different product lines in different industries.

Now, I wouldn’t go as far as saying that auditing alone will provide you with the necessary skill set to become the CEO of a Fortune 500 company, however, you definitely will know hell of a lot more than most people who graduated with you with a business/accounting related degree and decide to “work their way up.”

The second big reason you want to go work for a Big 4 is surprisingly the same reason you don’t want to go work for a Big 4: it’s a terrible working environment.

Spartans had agoge, a harsh military indoctrination into the military life, where young boys were put into a hostile environment, forcing them to become survivalists. Accountants have the Big 4 experience. Both cases result in seasoned warrior, who is unnerved by nothing, and can take on basically anything. The work ethic you develop while working for a Big 4 firm is possibly one of the best in the corporate world. You will become a corporate machine. You will learn to laugh at your friends complaining about working late because they had to stay till 6:30PM, well that is assuming you have any friends left outside of the workplace. Unlike many office workers, you will learn to take a task-oriented approach instead of a time-oriented approach. You will not sit there and count the number of hours until you go home, instead you will try to accomplish as much as possible before you have to go home.

The value of this conditioning is not lost on companies looking to hire accounting professionals. If you take the time to careen through a few job boards, you will see that many higher level accounting positions require the applicants to have prior Big 4 experience. People working in mid-size or small public accounting firms may very well have the technical knowledge needed for the position, however, the recruiters want to know with some level of certainty that the applicant can perform under pressure. A Big 4 stamp on your resume says exactly that – this person has been stress tested by the Big 4, hire him or her!

And the third big reason you want to go work for a Big 4 is networking. The beauty of working for a Big 4 is that you can get pretty chummy with your clients, who just happen to be large corporations with giant accounting departments. As such, you will get to know and befriend some key accounting executives. You will show them how hard working you are via the 2:00 AM PBC requests and that you know their operations inside and out, given that you are auditing them (allegedly). It’s your job to impress the pants off (figuratively) of your client’s top management.

These guys can prove to be your key allies in helping you land a key job, when you decide that you are done shoveling shit for the Big 4 and want to get out. If they have a position available in their company, they may hire you directly. However, if the particular company they are working for is not hiring, they will probably forward your resume to some of their friends at other companies who are in need of good people. A recommendation from an Accounting Director or VP of Finance of a Fortune 500 company will give your resume an almost nuclear power. All of a sudden resumes of people who were probably more qualified than you are being overlooked because you were named the prodigal son. No recruiter or headhunter can provide this sort of firepower to your resume. Oh, and expect at least a 10%-50% increase in salary.

That’s the power of the Big 4.

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#1

Great write-up. I think a lot of people know its “great” working for the Big 4. They know that it can open up many doors for you, but very few know exactly why.

big4bound wrote on August 1, 2009 - 5:50 PM
#2

For the accounting firm shwag, of course.

Jr Deputy Accountant wrote on August 2, 2009 - 10:07 PM
#3

Hey Accounting Genius:

I think you nailed it in this sentence: “Unlike many office workers, you will learn to take a task-oriented approach instead of a time-oriented approach.”

Thus, having a task-oriented approach changes the way a meeting ends with a manager. It goes from how many days you can get this done to how many items on that to-do list can be done by a specific deadline. Having this approach creates the perception that the individual is a reliable guy which can be trusted with the most important tasks.

It also influences the power between yourself and your manager. The manager is happy as he can looks good in front of his own manager in meeting deadlines. However, true power lies with the one who performs those tasks. He decides the order to perform them as well as how many to perform by the deadline. Soon enough, he becomes the most important person in that department.

Drunken Partner

Drunken Partner wrote on August 14, 2009 - 8:09 AM
#4

Ah yes, being task-oriented. I never thought of it in those words, but it describes what we do so well.

Krupo wrote on August 25, 2009 - 10:12 PM
#5

The task orientation also lends itself to how you get paid at a big 4… for doing an audit (series of tasks) no matter how much time it takes you.

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#7

I greatly appreciate the information. How long do you think someone should work at one of the Big Four before leaving? Should the individual leave after making Senior associate (2years), Manager (5 years)or stay even longer?

Superdad wrote on June 1, 2010 - 6:14 AM
#8

I am working or a company and drawing 100k. I have just got an offer from the BIg 4 and they want to pay me less by 20k. I am not sure if I should take this offer or not. Can anyone give me advise on this??

Really need help this time and want to make a decision.

yo man wrote on December 8, 2010 - 10:18 PM
#9

Hmm, and what about the area of growing markets, you’re still talking about the US where many of the Fortune 500 companies have their core business. For me it seems when(if) I sign the contract with the devil there will be no place else to grow further. (I live in Eastern Europe)

big4? wrote on February 16, 2011 - 10:58 AM
#10

@Superdad: When you exit will determine the trajectory of your career, so it really depends on what your career aspirations are.

@Yo Man: Do you have a CPA? How important is your CPA to your career growth? Do you want to be a controller of a public company? If you answered yes to the last question, take the job.

@big4?: Well, the Big 4 firms do offer excellent international rotation programs which can open up doors and give you the type of access I am talking about.

Accounting Genius wrote on April 19, 2011 - 5:03 PM
#11

I have been working in public at a medium size firm for almost 6 years and I am in the process of taking my cpa exams.

Does it make sense to try to obtain employment at the Big 4 at this stage in my career? I do eventually want to go private and actually I have been looking for jobs in private, but have had no luck.

Recently I interviewed at a top 10 firm and they have extended me an offer, but I am not sure if it is just better to shoot for the Big 4.

CT wrote on August 24, 2011 - 1:10 PM
#12

For all you Big 4 wanabees, listen up! These firms are vuewed as Gods’by colleges and Universities across the U.S. After working two tax seasons back-to-back, I am finished with public accounting!! They will work you to the bone and many colleauges believe it is too much of a sacrifice working those long brutal hours 60-80. While others in industry leave their offices @ 5:00pm on friday to party!! F the Big 4!!!!

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